tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8629758183547510158.post1351243269772552189..comments2024-03-29T07:17:26.082+00:00Comments on Tandleman's Beer Blog: Hydes Numbers Don't Add UpUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger19125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8629758183547510158.post-54312512417334015822012-03-09T12:57:11.280+00:002012-03-09T12:57:11.280+00:00I wore a Ronnie Barker disguise but I got set upon...I wore a Ronnie Barker disguise but I got set upon by ravenous women at the bar and never got to hear it. It happens everytime.Cooking Lagerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02830924433230427226noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8629758183547510158.post-45910296760719255932012-03-09T12:56:44.995+00:002012-03-09T12:56:44.995+00:00This comment has been removed by the author.Cooking Lagerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02830924433230427226noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8629758183547510158.post-47832676916894197472012-03-09T12:04:41.405+00:002012-03-09T12:04:41.405+00:00You mean you weren't there in disguise to hear...You mean you weren't there in disguise to hear it for yourself, Cookie?Curmudgeonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02558747878308766840noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8629758183547510158.post-7094791137696791122012-03-09T11:49:34.101+00:002012-03-09T11:49:34.101+00:00What was the news on Harp lager?What was the news on Harp lager?Cooking Lagerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02830924433230427226noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8629758183547510158.post-1611161837085039252012-03-09T10:45:56.035+00:002012-03-09T10:45:56.035+00:00I think the real driver for the move is the ending...I think the real driver for the move is the ending of the InBev brewing contracts, which makes the current brewery uneconomic.<br /><br />He pointed out that Robinson's new brewhouse has a brew length of 90 barrels, as opposed to 360 in the old one, so represents a similar although less obvious reduction in capacity.<br /><br />And consider yourself honoured, as he had brought a print-out of this blogpost along, so no doubt will be reading this.<br /><br />He said last year's volume, with all the InBev contracts, was actually 60,000 barrels, not 40,000.Curmudgeonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02558747878308766840noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8629758183547510158.post-43044262193753933772012-03-09T09:09:32.972+00:002012-03-09T09:09:32.972+00:00Mudgie - Thanks for this. Still astonishing, but g...Mudgie - Thanks for this. Still astonishing, but glad they are hanging on in there.Tandlemanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06804499573827044693noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8629758183547510158.post-66268765413337263212012-03-09T00:13:08.195+00:002012-03-09T00:13:08.195+00:00And yes, they will benefit from PBD.And yes, they will benefit from PBD.Curmudgeonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02558747878308766840noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8629758183547510158.post-58072695700985800312012-03-09T00:00:49.231+00:002012-03-09T00:00:49.231+00:00I heard this presentation from Paul Jeffreys tonig...I heard this presentation from Paul Jeffreys tonight. He's a confident, articulate speaker and knows his stuff. I certainly got the impression that Hydes had thought the move through carefully.<br /><br />5,000 barrels a year is a realistic assessment of the volume of their own beers Hydes are currently putting through their pubs. Original Bitter makes up over two-thirds of this. With more intensive use there will, however, be the opportunity to increase production well above that level.<br /><br />They are going to concentrate entirely on cask beers - their smooth beers will be discontinued and third party alternatives brought it.<br /><br />They plan to buy their new site outright rather than leasing it, which is a sign of commitment to the future.<br /><br />They are also considering introducing a separate range of beers under a different branding.<br /><br />While they have abandoned direct selling to free trade accounts, they are still looking at doing wholesale business with companies like Wetherspoons and Punch.<br /><br />In the short term at least, cask Boddingtons will be allowed to die.Curmudgeonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02558747878308766840noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8629758183547510158.post-63365255459103204642012-03-08T20:26:57.457+00:002012-03-08T20:26:57.457+00:00Hope they are cleverer at avoiding double posts......Hope they are cleverer at avoiding double posts...Tatton Breweryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16891471814710631379noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8629758183547510158.post-6831323600535263352012-03-08T20:26:19.572+00:002012-03-08T20:26:19.572+00:00Surprised no-one has mentioned PBD (Small Brewers ...Surprised no-one has mentioned PBD (Small Brewers Relief). At current vol Hyde's are ineligible for SBR; at the putative new volume they will benefit greatly from SBR. Now, I acknowledge this appears eccentric, but maybe they are cleverer than I (likely), or maybe they caught something from Humphrey Smith (possible).Tatton Breweryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16891471814710631379noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8629758183547510158.post-90723769642425609882012-03-08T20:26:04.399+00:002012-03-08T20:26:04.399+00:00Surprised no-one has mentioned PBD (Small Brewers ...Surprised no-one has mentioned PBD (Small Brewers Relief). At current vol Hyde's are ineligible for SBR; at the putative new volume they will benefit greatly from SBR. Now, I acknowledge this appears eccentric, but maybe they are cleverer than I (likely), or maybe they caught something from Humphrey Smith (possible).Tatton Breweryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16891471814710631379noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8629758183547510158.post-58223324223601018382012-03-06T18:28:39.831+00:002012-03-06T18:28:39.831+00:00The last two times I've been in my local Hydes...The last two times I've been in my local Hydes pub - both weekend afternoons - there's been no cask beer with the landlord blaming "supply problems". Don't know if that's just a coincidence or whether they're running down brewing capacity.Matthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09310220100267028274noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8629758183547510158.post-39147383468517235352012-03-06T17:12:49.721+00:002012-03-06T17:12:49.721+00:00I'll be watching this space with interest.I'll be watching this space with interest.Neville Grundyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10923209266005338452noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8629758183547510158.post-27994715479858269242012-03-06T15:15:55.242+00:002012-03-06T15:15:55.242+00:00Look forward to hearing what you find out.Look forward to hearing what you find out.beersiveknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13293913182389157112noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8629758183547510158.post-40367720517066315202012-03-06T15:13:41.234+00:002012-03-06T15:13:41.234+00:00I'll be there, so will be able to find out wha...I'll be there, so will be able to find out what this means.<br /><br />Robinson's latest press release says they are brewing 37,000 barrels a year, for an estate of maybe 350 pubs, which is about 2 barrels per pub per week, about twice the Hydes figure. But Robbies' also have a fair amount of free trade and bottled business, which Hydes don't.Curmudgeonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02558747878308766840noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8629758183547510158.post-79343747241192919922012-03-06T14:55:46.408+00:002012-03-06T14:55:46.408+00:00I'm sure that 5000bb/yr number was mentioned i...I'm sure that 5000bb/yr number was mentioned in the letter to licencees and shareholders on the Saturday the news originally came out.<br /><br />I may be wrong. Usually am.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8629758183547510158.post-21419232739405703052012-03-06T14:14:40.513+00:002012-03-06T14:14:40.513+00:00Anon. I get the feeling the numbers are so small,...Anon. I get the feeling the numbers are so small, that it isn't worthwhile any more.<br /><br />Cookie. John and the gang will ask anything I'd be interested in.Tandlemanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06804499573827044693noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8629758183547510158.post-14453411488453233222012-03-06T13:55:27.938+00:002012-03-06T13:55:27.938+00:00Cask Boddies to be discontinued as in no one will ...Cask Boddies to be discontinued as in no one will brew it at all?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8629758183547510158.post-55526095325404338622012-03-06T13:52:39.089+00:002012-03-06T13:52:39.089+00:00Punt up and ask the question.
I place my bet on t...Punt up and ask the question.<br /><br />I place my bet on the 5,000 number being wrong, whether misreported or a typo in a press release.<br /><br />Credit for knowing and questioning the number.Cooking Lagerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02830924433230427226noreply@blogger.com