tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8629758183547510158.post1610959235872311921..comments2024-03-29T07:17:26.082+00:00Comments on Tandleman's Beer Blog: It's Not (Just) the PriceUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8629758183547510158.post-28863958254621570982013-06-04T18:13:05.175+01:002013-06-04T18:13:05.175+01:00PYO is quite right: a survey of 1142 students publ...PYO is quite right: a survey of 1142 students published early in 2010 showed that 90% were <i>opposed</i> to repealing the smoking ban.Neville Grundyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10923209266005338452noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8629758183547510158.post-70137468671235390592013-06-04T09:56:08.562+01:002013-06-04T09:56:08.562+01:00That last line. Nail. Head. Bang.That last line. Nail. Head. Bang.rabidbarflyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02287790634237896071noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8629758183547510158.post-8654151685783702142013-06-04T08:45:04.395+01:002013-06-04T08:45:04.395+01:00I don't disagree with Ben per se, but I'd ...I don't disagree with Ben per se, but I'd rather have someone say hello than not on balance and I think most people would.Tandlemanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06804499573827044693noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8629758183547510158.post-23526909986633744792013-06-04T08:35:16.235+01:002013-06-04T08:35:16.235+01:00Agree with Ben Nunn that over-familiarity can be j...Agree with Ben Nunn that over-familiarity can be just as undesirable as rudeness. Unless you're a known regular, a certain amount of anonymity can be desirable.<br /><br />Although things have much improved over the years, there still seems to be an acceptance of a certain level of crapness in various aspects of pubs' offer that you wouldn't put up with in restaurants of any kind.Curmudgeonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02558747878308766840noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8629758183547510158.post-3714909756283132082013-06-03T16:36:37.602+01:002013-06-03T16:36:37.602+01:00Yup, it does make you wonder why in 2013, with pub...Yup, it does make you wonder why in 2013, with pubs dying quicker than a feller going down on Catherine <br />Zeta- Jones, it's still possible to find bogs in them that have broken windows, no bog roll and a festering old rag as a towel and just cold water with no soap as I did only last week in Blighty.<br /><br />And brain-dead bar staff with the personality of a savant Turkish goat herder.<br /><br />You can't blame the smoking ban any more as half the people who used to spark up in boozers are probably dead from lung disease by now anyway.<br /><br />Shit pub, shit service, shit takings.<br /><br />It's that simple.Lord Egbert Nobaconnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8629758183547510158.post-36787611069892286302013-06-03T16:18:03.601+01:002013-06-03T16:18:03.601+01:00Not the bloody smoking ban again. For every old ye...Not the bloody smoking ban again. For every old yellow bloke who would come back and light up in delight, three youngsters would leave in disgust and never come back. For a lot of people it would be the final straw and they'd stick to drinking cheaper, nicer booze in their nice clean smoke free houses for good.<br /><br /> py0noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8629758183547510158.post-86147533273731036092013-06-03T16:12:10.799+01:002013-06-03T16:12:10.799+01:00Agree, apart from the stuff about staff saying ...Agree, apart from the stuff about staff saying 'hello' and 'goodbye'... <br /><br />Unless I'm a hardcore regular, I want to be able to slip in and out of pubs incognito.<br /><br />Not just because I'm not a friendly Northerner, but because I like to be able to look inside a pub and leave if there's no beer I want/need without staff particularly noticing and without feeling too self-conscious.<br /><br />It's horrible and embarrassing walking into a near-empty pub, getting a big enthusiastic 'hello!' from the landlord giving me his undivided attention, scanning the pumps and realising that I don't want to drink any of that rubbish and have other pubs to visit. (Which happened only last night.)Benjamin Nunnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12735110277517005667noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8629758183547510158.post-82307283129458787322013-06-03T15:58:19.263+01:002013-06-03T15:58:19.263+01:00Sot on again, TM. The pub business is a people bus...Sot on again, TM. The pub business is a people business, and a pub often reflects the manager/landlord. Even my local JDW pub gives good welcome and service (save for the odd lack of bar staff, usual JDW gripe), plus cheap food and drink AND clean toilets. The welcome changed when a new manager came in, staff now have personalities and chat to you. Makes a huge difference. I have also said for a while to anyone who'll listen that a lot of struggling pubs might have boring beer, bland food but the common factor is the people working there. Don't care, won't care, no personality. Another GBG pub locally had a very good beer offering (for a PubCo pub) but the landlord had no personality, spent all evening tweeting and facebooking from behind the bar. He often complained that he didn't get enough trade to survive and why didn't CAMRA members go more often! He moved on and the new people are better (could be even better, but that's splitting hairs), the staff have perked up as a result and it is a better place to visit for all - and the beer - always good - has improved too, both range and quality.Nick Boleynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8629758183547510158.post-3325718103573890952013-06-03T15:53:16.101+01:002013-06-03T15:53:16.101+01:00"What puts you off getting yourself down the ..."What puts you off getting yourself down the pub? "<br /><br />The smoking ban. <br /><br />Everything else you mention were true before then; off-license booze has always been cheaper than the pub, the toilets have always left a lot to be desired.PJHhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11331948749785269728noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8629758183547510158.post-53918311498044234152013-06-03T14:23:48.833+01:002013-06-03T14:23:48.833+01:00You're not wrong, fella.
General grottiness ...You're not wrong, fella. <br /><br />General grottiness is so last century. I wear trendy trainers and don’t want to wade through puddles of piss in order to have a slash. I’m one of them odd balls like to wash their hands and dry them too.<br /><br />As for prices, I occasionally pay top dollar, more frequently bottom dollar, but you kind of know whether you feel ripped off or not. Whether they are taking the piss. I like the Spoons as a benchmark. Is it worth the extra? For some the answer is yes, for all too many the answer is no.<br />Cooking Lagerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02830924433230427226noreply@blogger.com