tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8629758183547510158.post2336341976781493486..comments2024-03-23T04:23:48.076+00:00Comments on Tandleman's Beer Blog: Alistair is no Darling of the Pub TradeUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8629758183547510158.post-38241631083508350692008-03-27T15:25:00.000+00:002008-03-27T15:25:00.000+00:00I still think it's a valid point. Beer duty is sti...I still think it's a valid point. Beer duty is still a major, if not the major problem, that we have to tackle. Yes, there are other things to consider-some pubcos have used it as an excuse for increases but locally I've seen prices mainly increase in the freehouses. <BR/><BR/>The steep rise in ingredient costs is something of a red herring. As has been pointed, they account for only a very,very,small fraction of the cost of a pint.Sat In A Pubhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08123038980796000837noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8629758183547510158.post-76452695725559696842008-03-27T13:43:00.000+00:002008-03-27T13:43:00.000+00:00It's a classic Orwellian response from the pub tra...It's a classic Orwellian response from the pub trade as far as I can see - create an enemy to blame for all your problems, thus distracting from/ignoring the enemy within.<BR/><BR/>Darling should have just been honest about the tax increase and not used the binge drinking excuse. I'm a Labour voter but that doesn't mean I support everything they do. IMO Darling is a tosser!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8629758183547510158.post-28200317778993716372008-03-26T22:22:00.000+00:002008-03-26T22:22:00.000+00:00Thing is, as Maieb pointed out, there's a lot mor...Thing is, as <A HREF="http://maeib.blogspot.com/2008/03/so-much-for-4p-pint.html" REL="nofollow">Maieb pointed out, </A> there's a lot more than 4p a pint going on, and this is not attributable to the budget.<BR/><BR/>Now I've no objection to microbrewers passing on rises in malt, hops etc, but what odds will someone give me on prices going back down again should we have a fruitful hop harvest? It suits everyone in the trade to blame the rise in duty.<BR/><BR/>I'm not excusing the rise, by the way.Boakhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17657725007230709027noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8629758183547510158.post-50107099225790365312008-03-26T21:39:00.001+00:002008-03-26T21:39:00.001+00:00Southport Drinker, I think we have a very differen...Southport Drinker, I think we have a very different take on things. Let's leave it at that. For the record I have no agenda that involves "sticking up for Labour".Stonchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15927490011165896353noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8629758183547510158.post-24020873876706492832008-03-26T21:39:00.000+00:002008-03-26T21:39:00.000+00:00Southport Drinker, I think we have a very differen...Southport Drinker, I think we have a very different take on things. Let's leave it at that. For the record I have no agenda that involves "sticking up for Labour".Stonchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15927490011165896353noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8629758183547510158.post-45561497153170284582008-03-26T19:19:00.000+00:002008-03-26T19:19:00.000+00:00I agree with Tandleman-its a good bit of fun with ...I agree with Tandleman-its a good bit of fun with a serious message. Saw it on Southport Drinkers blog and have printed several off. They have proved a good talking point. You can't afford to be highbrow on issues like this. Sometimes the tabloids are right!Sat In A Pubhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08123038980796000837noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8629758183547510158.post-34896736989068130012008-03-26T17:11:00.000+00:002008-03-26T17:11:00.000+00:00Stonch, you're always sticking up for Labour and a...Stonch, you're always sticking up for Labour and accuse those who think their current policies are bad news for pubs and home drinkers of being either vulgar or nutters (I think you put me in the nutty category). <BR/><BR/>This is a great, fun campaign, which I have been supporting on my blog, too. It's also the sort of thing that may persuade drinkers to get more serious about the politics of pubs. <BR/><BR/>Gordon Brown may have been the beer champion once upon a time but no longer. <BR/><BR/>Drink prices are shooting up, pubs are closing down, drinkers are being accused of all sorts of social evils. <BR/><BR/>Soon only toffs and lawyers will be able to afford to drink in pubs.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8629758183547510158.post-610377590711249192008-03-26T16:37:00.000+00:002008-03-26T16:37:00.000+00:00I think I called it a bit of fun with a serious me...I think I called it a bit of fun with a serious message and then examined the message rather than agreeing per se with the campaign. In fact I have a bit of a go at tye pub trade. I do think it is a bit of fun though.<BR/><BR/>Scarcely more vulgar than a discussion about farting I'd venture?<BR/>(-:Tandlemanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06804499573827044693noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8629758183547510158.post-43022267907890660962008-03-26T16:21:00.000+00:002008-03-26T16:21:00.000+00:00Hmmm. To be honest Tandleman, I'm a little disappo...Hmmm. To be honest Tandleman, I'm a little disappointed you're promoting this "campaign"! It's terribly tabloid and vulgar.<BR/><BR/>For the record I disagree entirely with the beer duty rises in the Budget and backed CAMRA in their call for a 1p fall. I just don't like this tosh.Stonchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15927490011165896353noreply@blogger.com