tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8629758183547510158.post6520072870940648697..comments2024-03-29T07:17:26.082+00:00Comments on Tandleman's Beer Blog: Grim up North?Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger22125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8629758183547510158.post-30857926124247190492009-07-22T22:03:59.697+01:002009-07-22T22:03:59.697+01:00This north/south thing is a bit tedious: I was at ...This north/south thing is a bit tedious: I was at university with a professional Yorkshireman, and the topic was debated over many pints of Norwich Mild-turned out his favourite Yorkshire beer was Sam Smith's Ayingerbrau, bless him.<br />The beauty of our English ale is the variety:one day I'll pine for Goose Eye's No -eyed deer-silly name, excellent beer, the next I'll want Harveys or Larkin's. Sometimes I'll nostalgically imagine drinking a pint of Paine's-deep slow as the midland rivers: yes, slutchy!David, Little Omenden Farm and Nurseryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13955877094820632300noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8629758183547510158.post-52260286448467321682009-07-22T17:44:30.393+01:002009-07-22T17:44:30.393+01:00Thanks for your response Tndleman. Yes, I apprecia...Thanks for your response Tndleman. Yes, I appreciate the initial comment was just that little bit tongue in cheek, but this North v South beer thing is a hoary old chestnut that we could argue about all day.<br /><br />I have to agree with your comment about London Pride, having had a pint this lunchtime (it was that or GK IPA!), but like one of your other correspondents said there are a lot of very good beers available in this half of the country as well. Breweries like Dark Star and Hop Back are obvious candidates, but then so are Harveys, Goachers, Larkins and Whitsable - to name just a few locally.<br /><br />As for pale, hoppy beers, well the style was invented by the likes of Exmoor and Hop Back - and where are they located? in the South of course! Pale Northern beers such as Boddingtons and Theakstons USED to be hoppy as well, but this is no longer the case.<br /><br />I'm off out tonight, hopefully not for a pint of Slutch!Paul Baileyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09678639237696546268noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8629758183547510158.post-81895519293490721242009-07-22T11:30:38.500+01:002009-07-22T11:30:38.500+01:00Good point and absolutely relevant too, but the is...Good point and absolutely relevant too, but the issue is that they are much rarer beasts dan saff both in the breweries that brew them and the outlets that sell them.Tandlemanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06804499573827044693noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8629758183547510158.post-73306093510233903262009-07-22T11:27:11.405+01:002009-07-22T11:27:11.405+01:00Eh oop, whereas I certainly welcome beers from the...Eh oop, whereas I certainly welcome beers from the likes of Pictish, Thornbridge, Phoenix, Acorn, Ossett/Fernandes in the likes of the Wenlock, Old Fountain, Edgar Wallace there are i.m.h.o good golden and/or hoppy beers to be had from southerners such as Dark Star, Crouch Vale, Red Squirrel, Triple FFF, Twickenham, Goachers, Meantime, Brodies etc. And for every Shepherd Neame there is a Robinsons (allegedly).moleha4noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8629758183547510158.post-6992301122379244752009-07-22T00:46:08.071+01:002009-07-22T00:46:08.071+01:00Gazza - Slutch it is. Though appropriately and not...Gazza - Slutch it is. Though appropriately and not obsessively obviously.Tandlemanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06804499573827044693noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8629758183547510158.post-92160738934743830162009-07-22T00:30:36.381+01:002009-07-22T00:30:36.381+01:00Paul B - It was slightly tongue in cheek. But only...Paul B - It was slightly tongue in cheek. But only very slightly as there is a serious message here. No need either for beer envy, which is my point. If you guys want to drink flabby HOPless (though the Freudian "hopeless works too") - fine.<br /><br />When I read some bloggers eulogising the awful London Pride and contributors agreeing with it, I despair. OK. You haven't much choice, but honestly.<br /><br />Oh and I guess TT see an opportunity. Who knows what that'll do for other Northern brewers? Nowt I'd guess.Tandlemanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06804499573827044693noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8629758183547510158.post-20435263041363139652009-07-21T22:09:08.469+01:002009-07-21T22:09:08.469+01:00I'm neutral being neither from the north or so...I'm neutral being neither from the north or south. Give me a golden (not too) cool eastern ale everytime.<br /><br />Nice to see the Andy Capp cartoon - I used to draw Andy over and over in my school text books. Much better than concentrating on the lessons.Paul Garrardhttp://www.realaleblog.co.uknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8629758183547510158.post-14798451344535014922009-07-21T21:03:41.353+01:002009-07-21T21:03:41.353+01:00"Warm, brown, flat, hopeless slutch" - t..."Warm, brown, flat, hopeless slutch" - that sounds like fighting talk to me Tandleman. At least we can enjoy our beer without having to drink our way through an inch or so of meringue first!<br /><br />And where did this snooty Southern Jessie nonsense come from? Envy? or is it that Northerners still have a huge chip on their shoulders?<br /><br />ps. Southern Sam is correct in what he says. After all why are Timothy Taylors shipping, and selling, increasing amounts of their beer south of Watford? Where they lead, others will surely follow!Paul Baileyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09678639237696546268noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8629758183547510158.post-18194310162823385662009-07-21T20:45:40.068+01:002009-07-21T20:45:40.068+01:00I know what slutch is and I'm from Mid-Cheshir...I know what slutch is and I'm from Mid-Cheshire so it's a North-West thing methinks.<br /><br />The aforementioned tour around Huddersfield, Sheffield and Manc reminded me yet again just how shit anywhere south of Crewe is for pale, hoppy beers... with sparklers, obviously. I just can't see why people would want to drink muddy brown beer without any hop presence? or should we call it slutch...?Gazza Prescotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11834776854227668409noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8629758183547510158.post-14966167811233589832009-07-21T19:47:31.231+01:002009-07-21T19:47:31.231+01:00Oh blast, I've got Barngates Moth Bag at £2.30...Oh blast, I've got Barngates Moth Bag at £2.30 a pint on at the mo. I'll have to put my prices up.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11319272987951077205noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8629758183547510158.post-6339468377708120302009-07-21T19:29:53.682+01:002009-07-21T19:29:53.682+01:00£2.40 a pint in free houses? I wish.£2.40 a pint in free houses? I wish.Tandlemanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06804499573827044693noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8629758183547510158.post-83884246312874718642009-07-21T19:25:22.857+01:002009-07-21T19:25:22.857+01:00Superb beers avaiable up north and some great plac...Superb beers avaiable up north and some great places in which to drink them. However, surely its only a matter of time before they shift most of it to the more lucrative market where folk don't have a £2.40 limit per pint.<br /><br />After all, Bordeaux and Champagne would hardly be what they are as wine regions if they relied merely on local peasants as their main market.Southern Samnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8629758183547510158.post-52395175420962836932009-07-21T17:28:42.978+01:002009-07-21T17:28:42.978+01:00We had Dobber at the Marble Arch, Manchester - one...We had Dobber at the Marble Arch, Manchester - one pint with sparkler on, one with it off. Have to admit, the latter tasted better for longer.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03387325466589229898noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8629758183547510158.post-65690783815472313572009-07-21T15:22:45.367+01:002009-07-21T15:22:45.367+01:00I've had Millstone beers, quite nice for a ses...I've had Millstone beers, quite nice for a session beer. Didn't quite rate them in the "cutting edge" category though. Perhaps they are compared to the Manchester family brewers.<br /><br />Removing sparklers is important for cleaning - otherwise I'd super-glue mine ON.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11319272987951077205noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8629758183547510158.post-37146820189497832072009-07-21T12:29:34.171+01:002009-07-21T12:29:34.171+01:00Aye "slutch" is believed to be a local c...Aye "slutch" is believed to be a local corruption of slush-itself a variation on sludge.<br /><br />It's actually possible to remove sparklers??? Can't think why you'd want to, mind you, but it's good to know.Sat In A Pubhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08123038980796000837noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8629758183547510158.post-20647623153239190462009-07-21T12:22:28.472+01:002009-07-21T12:22:28.472+01:00To each his own.To each his own.Tandlemanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06804499573827044693noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8629758183547510158.post-29303362464449198672009-07-21T12:19:45.412+01:002009-07-21T12:19:45.412+01:00I've just spent a week round the likes of Hudd...I've just spent a week round the likes of Huddersfield, Manchester and Sheffield. Beers were often good. Even better when the sparkler was taken off...Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03387325466589229898noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8629758183547510158.post-75494016299384604732009-07-21T12:06:28.992+01:002009-07-21T12:06:28.992+01:00Jeff - Can't say why it isn't known to you...Jeff - Can't say why it isn't known to you. My mob in the pub use it when the lane is particularly muddy. Maybe it is a Southern Lancashire thing? I just don't know.<br /><br />CL<br /><br />You are thinking of Scotland.Tandlemanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06804499573827044693noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8629758183547510158.post-46911775753932068872009-07-21T12:02:59.069+01:002009-07-21T12:02:59.069+01:00Don't be telling the world how great the North...Don't be telling the world how great the North is, you'll have the soft southeners moving up to promised land. Keep telling them it's grim, rains a lot and the only food is fried.Cooking Lagerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02830924433230427226noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8629758183547510158.post-18343342510755046562009-07-21T11:59:04.732+01:002009-07-21T11:59:04.732+01:00I've never heard of slutch, and I'm a genu...I've never heard of slutch, and I'm a genuine born and bred Lancastrian.Jeff Pickthallhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06343140031285101096noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8629758183547510158.post-52620162992935511522009-07-21T11:41:08.271+01:002009-07-21T11:41:08.271+01:00No I don't imply that though I suppose it may ...No I don't imply that though I suppose it may well exist.Tandlemanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06804499573827044693noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8629758183547510158.post-33716514054907425062009-07-21T11:35:55.098+01:002009-07-21T11:35:55.098+01:00You seem to imply there is such a thing "cutt...You seem to imply there is such a thing "cutting edge, UNdrinkable beer". Could you be more specific?Jeff Pickthallhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06343140031285101096noreply@blogger.com