tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8629758183547510158.post9197543774810533210..comments2024-03-29T07:17:26.082+00:00Comments on Tandleman's Beer Blog: A Less Pointless Import?Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8629758183547510158.post-65263993845127738452008-08-13T17:23:00.000+01:002008-08-13T17:23:00.000+01:00I tasted these when I was in Chile, the Golden Ale...I tasted these when I was in Chile, the Golden Ale was the better of the two but certainly very forgettable. The Stout was rather boring, they made a point of it being a stout on the menu but it had nothing interesting about it. Chile sells a few different German and English style beers but only a bottle conditioned brown ale from a small brewery in Valparaiso (lost the name I'm afraid) stirred my interest. ,Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8629758183547510158.post-35521575633576362772008-07-05T23:06:00.000+01:002008-07-05T23:06:00.000+01:00It certainly tasted like a dark lager and not a pa...It certainly tasted like a dark lager and not a particularly interesting one, I cant remember what it was entered as but not a stout I suspect.Kieran Haslett-Moorehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04562970144894398803noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8629758183547510158.post-26678984810796339172008-07-04T14:09:00.000+01:002008-07-04T14:09:00.000+01:00Fair point, Tyson, but unfortunately I don't think...Fair point, Tyson, but unfortunately I don't think it really matters whether there's an existing demand or some expensive ad campaign creates one - if a market can be found one way or another, then chances are that someone is going to make money out of it by supplying the beer.<BR/><BR/>Assuming that's the case then surely it's better if the beer is brewed locally? ...from an environmental point of view anyway, though not an aesthetic one. The moral ground is pretty shaky too, especially if the branding is a bit coy about the country of origin.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8629758183547510158.post-6191292379703003662008-07-04T12:49:00.000+01:002008-07-04T12:49:00.000+01:00TomAh, but that beggars the question-is there actu...Tom<BR/><BR/>Ah, but that beggars the question-is there actually a big demand for it? Or is that demand artificially created by the big brewers/importers? People will drink it if spoon fed it, but I'm not sure there's a massive demand for it.Sat In A Pubhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08123038980796000837noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8629758183547510158.post-91224318675738510682008-07-04T10:52:00.000+01:002008-07-04T10:52:00.000+01:00Stonch - instead of dismissing everyone who isn't ...Stonch - instead of dismissing everyone who isn't satisfied with your massive generalisation as a geek, why not try to argue with some of them?<BR/><BR/>While I agree with Tandleman, Rednev and others about beer miles, sourcing locally, etc., I have to admit that the Chilean stout sounds like the sort of beer I'd want to try if I saw it in a shop - though based on Kieran's assessment of it, perhaps only once.<BR/><BR/>The ecological/aesthetic arguments against imported bland beer raise an interesting point though. If importing the stuff in bulk is wrong but there's a big demand for it, perhaps we shouldn't be so upset when big brewers manufacture it locally.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8629758183547510158.post-39229786728371642682008-07-04T00:41:00.000+01:002008-07-04T00:41:00.000+01:00Didn't ypou confess to being a geek at sometime St...Didn't ypou confess to being a geek at sometime Stonch. Like me I guess you are checking emails etc after locking a pub up?Tandlemanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06804499573827044693noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8629758183547510158.post-17030488573430507762008-07-04T00:36:00.000+01:002008-07-04T00:36:00.000+01:00Sorry, but all the objections above sound like gee...Sorry, but all the objections above sound like geek stuff to me.Stonchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15927490011165896353noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8629758183547510158.post-57545861208926898672008-07-03T08:40:00.000+01:002008-07-03T08:40:00.000+01:00If it's a neutral top-fermenting yeast (think a Kö...If it's a neutral top-fermenting yeast (think a Kölsch or Altbier strain) and the beer is then cold-conditioned (which is likely if the head brewer's german, it's likely to taste and feel more like a dark lager. <BR/>Not that dark lager is necessarily bland and uninteresting, quite in the contrary ! :o)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8629758183547510158.post-75696192951032162532008-07-03T08:24:00.000+01:002008-07-03T08:24:00.000+01:00KieranAccording to their web site, the stout is to...Kieran<BR/><BR/>According to their web site, the stout is top fermented with an ale yeast as is the golden ale. Getting a bit more interesting?Tandlemanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06804499573827044693noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8629758183547510158.post-53578858891933618552008-07-03T02:43:00.000+01:002008-07-03T02:43:00.000+01:00"No import is pointless if someone wants to buy it..."No import is pointless if someone wants to buy it!"<BR/><BR/>From a capitalist point of view, this statement is absolutely correct. From a beer drinker's point of view, to bring in something that replicates locally produced beers is irresponsible and pointless, both in ecological and aesthetic terms. We should import beers only that provide something we don't have already. The quest for novelty shouldn't become an addiction in itself, but it's that quest that results on nondescript beers such as Tiger and, previously, San Miguel being shipped in and promoted as some great new & previously undiscovered foreign beer. If this Chilean brewery is radically different, then I'll be happy to try their brews ~ otherwise it's just a costly way of moving water around the planet.Neville Grundyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10923209266005338452noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8629758183547510158.post-64646520965560134982008-07-03T01:42:00.000+01:002008-07-03T01:42:00.000+01:00I have had this range, it was entered into NZIBA a...I have had this range, it was entered into NZIBA a few years ago. The Stout is almost certainly a dark lager. These are worth a try for curiosity's sake but aren't really that exciting. <BR/><BR/>I drink a lot of imported beer, almost none of it golden lager though.Kieran Haslett-Moorehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04562970144894398803noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8629758183547510158.post-3293171802553855352008-07-03T00:40:00.000+01:002008-07-03T00:40:00.000+01:00Not at all sure I agree with that statement at all...Not at all sure I agree with that statement at all. The pils, no matter how well made will just be another pointless yellow fluid. It might be less pointless if they bring in the unusual beers. Ah that's what I said in my blog!Tandlemanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06804499573827044693noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8629758183547510158.post-51331948642624155732008-07-02T22:20:00.000+01:002008-07-02T22:20:00.000+01:00No import is pointless if someone wants to buy it!...No import is pointless if someone wants to buy it!Stonchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15927490011165896353noreply@blogger.com