tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8629758183547510158.post3258866191626442935..comments2024-03-29T07:17:26.082+00:00Comments on Tandleman's Beer Blog: Manchester Beer and Cider FestivalUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger41125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8629758183547510158.post-15986568006250892522016-07-30T10:42:17.798+01:002016-07-30T10:42:17.798+01:00How to Change IMEI Number in Any Android Root Requ...<a href="http://techtrickseo.com/change-imei-number-android-device/" rel="nofollow">How to Change IMEI Number in Any Android Root Required</a>TechTrickSeohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04634262013987058087noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8629758183547510158.post-66264883899338371952016-01-31T10:17:16.176+00:002016-01-31T10:17:16.176+00:00Protz to Erlangernick: " I tell you,this Jere...Protz to Erlangernick: " I tell you,this Jeremy Corbyn look is going to catch on in a big way. "Stanley Blenkinsopnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8629758183547510158.post-48250413352180946432016-01-29T13:34:47.546+00:002016-01-29T13:34:47.546+00:00Tyson, where you there? Sorry to have missed you t...Tyson, where you there? Sorry to have missed you this time. It was on my agenda to head to the Trackside, but then other things got on my agenda instead.<br /><br />Mudgie, yes indeed a couple or three dark milds exhibited what I call "Folgers homebrew" notes, now that you remind me. Not sure how to describe it, but the mate that got me started homebrewing in Oregon in 1993 had it in his stout-ish beer. Reminds me also of those medicine capsules of my yoof, the kind with the tiny little balls of medicine inside, and if the capsule would dissolve, what those nodules tasted like instant coffee, in a way. Erlangernickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09564871714656285737noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8629758183547510158.post-26939934889591773222016-01-29T10:35:54.579+00:002016-01-29T10:35:54.579+00:00The only consistent complaint I heard every day at...The only consistent complaint I heard every day at the festival and afterwards in the pubs was the food selection. It certainly was pitiful for vegetarians but most of the complaints were from flesh-eaters. Obviously I advised them that it was down to the venue and to make their grievances known in the hope that they let CAMRA run with it next year. You only need a decent pie stall or one of the pop-up pizza or curry stands that festivals are increasingly using to vastly improve things. <br /><br />Other than that, a very good first festival. Far better than the first Veledrome fest. The plentiful seating seemed to be particularly well received. Let's hope it all balances out in the books. <br /> Sat In A Pubhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08123038980796000837noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8629758183547510158.post-56063988174767424822016-01-29T09:34:19.359+00:002016-01-29T09:34:19.359+00:00For the record I had one or two I liked less than ...For the record I had one or two I liked less than others, but nothing remotely approached 'duff'. In terms of the beer, this was among the best festivals I've ever been to. Maybe I just chose well (or luckily).Philhttp://ohgoodale.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8629758183547510158.post-89864832243995502392016-01-28T09:42:25.605+00:002016-01-28T09:42:25.605+00:00Brendon: That's why we sacked him off and he w...Brendon: That's why we sacked him off and he won't be back.Tandlemanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06804499573827044693noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8629758183547510158.post-22077737797297119902016-01-28T07:12:14.528+00:002016-01-28T07:12:14.528+00:00Pub Curmudgeon - yes, by excluding sexist t-shirt ...Pub Curmudgeon - yes, by excluding sexist t-shirt sellers. This isn't 1974 anymore, that kind of stuff just isn't acceptable these days. Whatever people say, CAMRA doesn't exist in a bubble outside of society. Last year's performance by the vendors concerned made me embarrassed to work for CAMRA. Brendon Hnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8629758183547510158.post-25048015044266340662016-01-27T23:22:08.092+00:002016-01-27T23:22:08.092+00:00We only managed to get to the trade session (we be...We only managed to get to the trade session (we being Brewsmith team plus father in law) but had a great day.<br /><br />Much better venue for me than the Velodrome - for all the reasons stated. Its just bigger, more space, plus its not a half mile hike for a slash or a beer from a brewery who's name begins with 'X' or 'Z'<br /><br />Had some great beer, some good beer and a couple of bad uns but what do you expect out of so much choice? The short swan necks / can't touch the beer thing bothered me occasionally but I've learned not to care if the beer is conditioned well enough,<br /><br />Best BF this year...<br /><br />James.<br /><br />IJames Brewsmithhttp://brewsmithbeer.co.uknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8629758183547510158.post-26468835678097792012016-01-27T22:59:26.545+00:002016-01-27T22:59:26.545+00:00Also, no tombola (but see previous remarks about h...Also, no tombola (but see previous remarks about how it must be a sod of a job to round up all those prizes & I wouldn't like to do it).<br /><br />Pub Games supplied by St Albans? Did not know that. I'm convinced they were offering more beery prizes (e.g. beer) the last time I saw them, but I may be wrong. I've never come close to shutting the box/shoving a ha'penny correctly/hooking a duck or whatever, so the point is a bit academic. All I can say is that I would definitely have punted a quid on the tombola, if there'd been one, & once I'd done that I would almost certainly have hit the pub games. Gateway drug, tombola.Philhttp://ohgoodale.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8629758183547510158.post-65667769748498290222016-01-27T20:47:29.254+00:002016-01-27T20:47:29.254+00:00Great festival. Although food was disappointing it...Great festival. Although food was disappointing it did the job . Roll on next year.<br />Ed Leahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04570333156834564653noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8629758183547510158.post-57791950977751320362016-01-27T20:11:56.836+00:002016-01-27T20:11:56.836+00:00"Lets try to be a more inclusive organisation...<i>"Lets try to be a more inclusive organisation"</i><br /><br />Ah yes, obviously the best way to achieve that is to exclude people.<br /><br />Curmudgeonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02558747878308766840noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8629758183547510158.post-11527404729304365652016-01-27T18:12:13.107+00:002016-01-27T18:12:13.107+00:00Maybe the abuse I got on the official CAMRA facebo...Maybe the abuse I got on the official CAMRA facebook group was worth it if it meant the sexist t-shirt seller wasn't there. Lets try to be a more inclusive organisation.Brendon Hallnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8629758183547510158.post-31560922022939932402016-01-27T15:12:53.294+00:002016-01-27T15:12:53.294+00:00@Nick - my recollection is that you were saying on...@Nick - my recollection is that you were saying one or two of the beers were a bit home-brewish, not that they were badly kept.<br /><br />No point in drinking Bathams in thirds - you need a pint to appreciate the long, dry aftertaste.Curmudgeonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02558747878308766840noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8629758183547510158.post-53013690634055617092016-01-27T14:49:47.046+00:002016-01-27T14:49:47.046+00:00@Mudgie - I know the catering was done by the venu...@Mudgie - I know the catering was done by the venue, but presumably part of the reason that the festival could get the venue (which sounds great otherwise) at a non-prohibitive price is that the venue operators are making some extra cash off the food, so it basically amounts to the same thing.DaveShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14030589043526494438noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8629758183547510158.post-45955622095387007922016-01-27T14:12:37.341+00:002016-01-27T14:12:37.341+00:00Nick: Good. Not our fault you don't like thing...Nick: Good. Not our fault you don't like things.Tandlemanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06804499573827044693noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8629758183547510158.post-33849035412436185262016-01-27T14:09:03.358+00:002016-01-27T14:09:03.358+00:00Duff beer...maybe not so duff as just badly brewed...Duff beer...maybe not so duff as just badly brewed. Bad recipe formulation. I honestly can't recall anything that seemed off as in bad form. So, not *duff* as much as a bit crappy. There were a few that I couldn't finish.<br /><br />And that Bathams is just too sweet. That was tough. Get their mild next time?Erlangernickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09564871714656285737noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8629758183547510158.post-76382897550128984642016-01-27T12:03:04.958+00:002016-01-27T12:03:04.958+00:00@Phil - at Stockport we operate our own tombola, w...@Phil - at Stockport we operate our own tombola, with beery prizes, but the Pub Games stall is a different thing that is supplied by St Albans, presumably including prizes.<br /><br />@DaveS - AIUI at Manchester the main catering was done by the venue as part of the overall deal, so it wasn't a case of CAMRA trying to maximise revenue from concessions. If CAMRA was in control of food concessions then I'm sure there would be more varied and exotic fare.<br /><br />IMV the bacon cheeseburger from the burger van at Stockport was nicer and better value than the rather dry £5 burger at MBCF.Curmudgeonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02558747878308766840noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8629758183547510158.post-45071903255562859212016-01-27T12:02:32.283+00:002016-01-27T12:02:32.283+00:00We had nearly 1400 chairs. I doubt there is room f...We had nearly 1400 chairs. I doubt there is room for too many more for stewarding and health and safety reasons.<br /><br />We will look at it of course.Tandlemanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06804499573827044693noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8629758183547510158.post-52493123127206777072016-01-27T11:57:29.550+00:002016-01-27T11:57:29.550+00:00Nick. The sexist tat guy was sacked off and the f...Nick. The sexist tat guy was sacked off and the festival was better for it.<br /><br />As for duff thirds, was there something wrong with them or did you just not like them? If the former you should have taken them back.Tandlemanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06804499573827044693noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8629758183547510158.post-76269236079761661932016-01-27T11:54:22.364+00:002016-01-27T11:54:22.364+00:00Rob. Loads of brewers on the stands. Guess they we...Rob. Loads of brewers on the stands. Guess they went walkabout on trade day.<br /><br />Cheese stand is a concession so up to the cheese guy. Tandlemanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06804499573827044693noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8629758183547510158.post-14373716924805567792016-01-27T11:44:48.479+00:002016-01-27T11:44:48.479+00:00Had a great day at the trade session on Wednesday ...Had a great day at the trade session on Wednesday afternoon so well done all. Only problem with a cash bar is that it's harder to recall how much you've drunk. Brewery bars are always good and give Indyman much of it's "craft" appeal. But why don't they have at least one rep from the brewery on there? Or do they and I just lucked out? Vested interest as I wanted to chat to a few brewers as it was a trade session after all. There were plenty wandering around drinking but not always easy to spot.<br /><br />Cheese stand should supply plastic knives and trays so we can make our own cheese platter ;-)<br /><br />You got succession planning sorted for when it becomes too much for the octogenarians? Rob Nicholsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14871887147718814739noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8629758183547510158.post-13628549143456667122016-01-27T10:15:07.250+00:002016-01-27T10:15:07.250+00:00Had a lovely afternoon out. Glad I knocked off wor...Had a lovely afternoon out. Glad I knocked off work early to come have a beer and meet the greats of beer bloggery. Enjoyed myself. Everyone seemed to enjoy it. Not sure I'd cope with 4 days of it mind, fair play to you.<br /><br />Cooking Lagerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02830924433230427226noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8629758183547510158.post-40217300873440892402016-01-27T09:22:09.335+00:002016-01-27T09:22:09.335+00:00On the food. I had two beef pasties on Wednesday e...On the food. I had two beef pasties on Wednesday evening, thought they were OK to good. Mudgie said his burger was meh to OK, IIRC. I had a lamb hotpot on Thursday which was quite tasty but then left me feeling a bit fatted & salted out afterwards. IOW, the food was OK for me, if not great.<br /><br />On the service. I was there til closing Wednesday, and never had to wait long at all for a beer. And I was one of the unlucky ones who had to wait a few minutes for tokens to be printed on Wednesday. Didn't impact my enjoyment at all.<br /><br />The terlets...as has been noted, more would be nicer, but I wouldn't say the venue suffers for the amount already there. <br /><br />On Roger. I think he was wondering WTF I was trying to say in my unintelligble drawl.<br /><br />On the beer. I had my own custom list of priorities, as I always do at CAMRA fests: milds first, ascending ABV; then bitter & pale, also ascending ABV. I didn't bother with crafty this or that except one called "session IPA", so don't know how good all that was, but I would say that I encountered a few more duff thirds than I did at Leeds or Nottingham. Or maybe I just don't remember the ones from those other places.<br /><br />All in all, an excellent event, but then I've only been to three other CAMRA fests (Leeds, Nottingham, Canterbury), so what do I know?<br /><br />Where was all the sexist, tasteless tat for sale? Erlangernickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09564871714656285737noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8629758183547510158.post-37293340499136531032016-01-27T09:19:22.595+00:002016-01-27T09:19:22.595+00:00I was only there on the Saturday, so can't com...I was only there on the Saturday, so can't comment on any other sessions, but would like to give a big thank you to all the volunteers and organisers. It was one of the best beer festivals I've been to in years.<br /><br />Really great venue. Easy to get to and given the number of people in the venue, it was really nice to be able to stand and talk to people in a normal voice without having to shout.<br /><br />We never had to queue at any of the bars for more than about 3 minutes (or for the toilets). <br /><br />Superb selection of beers, with a massive selection still on sale at the start of the Saturday session.<br /><br />Plenty of room. Even when it appeared to be at its busiest at 4pm, it was easy to walk up and down the hall, there was plenty of space to stand and chat, and none of the bars were difficult to get to.<br /><br />The only negatives (and these are minor gripes in the grand scheme of things):<br /><br />The food was disappointing. OK, we're not there for the food, but it is nice to be able to grab a bite to eat. Just an idea, but I've seen some festivals use local take-aways (usually chinese or indian) who have brought in woks and then sell 3 or 4 dishes that they are able to prepare in a small space. I guess that sort of food lends itself well to preparing a big batch which can be easily eaten from a plastic or cardboard container.<br /><br />There was plenty of table space, but could have probably done with more chairs. People naturally bunch up from where the chairs were laid out and you could probably get 50% more chairs in without any loss of floor space.<br />Beermunsterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09564489130909572144noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8629758183547510158.post-11287658886124519652016-01-27T00:34:35.267+00:002016-01-27T00:34:35.267+00:00The stall I went to was selling fairly high-class ...The stall I went to was selling fairly high-class burgers, inna fairly high-class bun, with cheese, with onions, for a fiver - or pulled pork, same bun, same onions, also a fiver. Another stall was selling quite substantial filled panini... for £4.95. You don't expect burger-van prices, but these prices did seem a bit on the steep side. OTOH, I suspect the food at Indy Man is more expensive as well as more exciting.<br /><br />I think the best food 'offer' I've seen at a beer festival was the one a few years ago which had an all-in hot buffet and, er, that was it. If you didn't like beef stew or chicken curry or veggie lasagne or rice or chips or garlic bread you were out of luck, but otherwise you could fill your boots.<br /><br />So that's my take on festival food: if it's not cheap it should be exotic, and if it's not that it should be plentiful!Philhttp://ohgoodale.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.com