tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8629758183547510158.post4853439823276626512..comments2024-03-29T07:17:26.082+00:00Comments on Tandleman's Beer Blog: Muddled Thinking and Downright MisrepresentationUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8629758183547510158.post-54203201350783371582012-12-06T19:17:10.524+00:002012-12-06T19:17:10.524+00:00Care to explain yourself, Anon?Care to explain yourself, Anon?Neville Grundyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10923209266005338452noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8629758183547510158.post-63553002566430083852012-12-03T16:05:46.784+00:002012-12-03T16:05:46.784+00:00I agree with this post and will, uncharacteristica...I agree with this post and will, uncharacteristically, quote David Cameron: "The big society is about changing the way our country is run. No more of a government treating everyone like children who are incapable of taking their own decisions. Instead, let's treat adults like adults and give them more responsibility over their lives." [The Observer 12 February 2011]Neville Grundyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10923209266005338452noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8629758183547510158.post-65576961269522561682012-12-03T15:53:43.099+00:002012-12-03T15:53:43.099+00:00Thanks for that,Curmudgeon, one bottle is more tha...Thanks for that,Curmudgeon, one bottle is more than my daily allowance I see, I will have to save a bit in the fridge for tomorrow.Coxynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8629758183547510158.post-75560346954396963092012-12-03T15:30:16.478+00:002012-12-03T15:30:16.478+00:00A "unit" is 10ml of pure alcohol, so a 6...A "unit" is 10ml of pure alcohol, so a 660ml bottle at 5.6% contains 3.7 units, which at £2 a bottle is 54p per unit.Curmudgeonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02558747878308766840noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8629758183547510158.post-81692051016081279552012-12-03T15:07:47.034+00:002012-12-03T15:07:47.034+00:00Ive just bought two large 660ml bottles of Brewdog...Ive just bought two large 660ml bottles of Brewdog punk Ipa on for two for £4 , would that scrape through, its 5.6%, don't totally understand what a unit is?<br /> Surely CAMRA's stance is to support pubs?<br />Like the point about Police, the fighting at football has stopped because the sentences are so stiff, you can go down for a few years for punching someone around football grounds , but do it on the high street and you will probably get bound over, so follow football on the high streets.<br />Carefree<br />Coxynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8629758183547510158.post-60444407248617390752012-12-03T14:51:07.112+00:002012-12-03T14:51:07.112+00:00When we had a ban on below cost selling in Ireland...When we had a ban on below cost selling in Ireland alcohol sales actually went up quite dramatically. Pretty conclusive proof that minimum pricing doesn't work, but they are still talking about copying you lot over the water anyway.<br /><br />http://irishcraftbeer.blogspot.com/2012/12/a-minimum-price-for-alcohol-we-tried.htmlSéan Billingshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10347677720588826886noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8629758183547510158.post-61246111386737326432012-12-03T14:50:12.391+00:002012-12-03T14:50:12.391+00:00This comment has been removed by the author.Séan Billingshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10347677720588826886noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8629758183547510158.post-43071400242588385872012-12-03T13:29:56.780+00:002012-12-03T13:29:56.780+00:00The prohibitionists know that minimum pricing won&...The prohibitionists know that minimum pricing won't reduce alcohol consumption. They see it as a staging post on the way to tighter restrictions on drinking.Matthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09310220100267028274noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8629758183547510158.post-50220357873967454802012-12-03T13:27:40.200+00:002012-12-03T13:27:40.200+00:00This comment has been removed by the author.Matthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09310220100267028274noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8629758183547510158.post-81773252254276124972012-12-03T13:16:24.838+00:002012-12-03T13:16:24.838+00:00Mudgie in "give CAMRA the benefit of the doub...Mudgie in "give CAMRA the benefit of the doubt" shock!<br /><br />Actually, in July's "What's Brewing", it says:<br /><br /><i>"CAMRA supports a genuine ban on the sale of alcohol at below cost. This would take into account the cost of brewing and retailing beer. This would result in supermarkets being unable to sell beer below an average cost price of around 80p a pint. CAMRA does not support proposals for a minimum price unrelated to the costs of producing and selling beer."</i><br /><br />Assuming the beer is 4% ABV, 80p a pint works out at around 35p a unit.Curmudgeonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02558747878308766840noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8629758183547510158.post-15535615157523247752012-12-03T13:02:51.475+00:002012-12-03T13:02:51.475+00:00That is complete bull, Mudge. The beards support 4...That is complete bull, Mudge. The beards support 45p a unit<br /><br />http://www.camra.org.uk/article.php?group_id=5582Cooking Lagerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02830924433230427226noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8629758183547510158.post-70068347682293065562012-12-03T12:57:10.901+00:002012-12-03T12:57:10.901+00:00Good post, very well said.
I think to be fair CA...Good post, very well said. <br /><br />I think to be fair CAMRA's stance is that they support a minimum price equal to the cost of duty, production and distribution, which I recall Mike Benner saying was about 35p/unit*, but somehow I doubt whether they'll do anything to oppose the current plans.<br /><br />It's a thoroughly bad idea all round and CAMRA really should not be expressing any sympathy for it.<br /><br />* for beer, this is probably about right, but it certainly isn't for many ciders due to the lower dutyCurmudgeonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02558747878308766840noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8629758183547510158.post-14579209804329925382012-12-03T10:58:48.221+00:002012-12-03T10:58:48.221+00:00As you are a long standing and active CAMRA member...As you are a long standing and active CAMRA member, can I ask how CAMRA ended up supporting this nonsense? I can make fun and call you all beards, but the CAMRA members I have met and know (including yourself) appear to be quite sane and moderate people. Of course I have met swivel eyed nutters and a few of your ranks create a stronger impression of eccentricity than others, but how did a democratic organisation go from campaigning FOR real ale by holding festivals, dishing out free magazines in pubs and generally encouraging boozers like me to try the hand pumps to campaigning AGAINST anything that is an alternative but not really a threat to real ale. A can of lager or glass of wine at home, a new supermarket on the site of a dead pub & stopping welfare claimants from having a drink?<br /><br />That is the question I’d like to know since the membership price exceeded the number of Spoons tokens handed out.<br />Cooking Lagerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02830924433230427226noreply@blogger.com