tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8629758183547510158.post4961155725944945964..comments2024-03-29T07:17:26.082+00:00Comments on Tandleman's Beer Blog: Less is MoreUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8629758183547510158.post-41066086045680590632013-05-09T14:40:09.418+01:002013-05-09T14:40:09.418+01:00Its no coincidence that the "one apologetic h...Its no coincidence that the "one apologetic handpump" is always some horrible generic muck that tastes like a mouthful of sugary mud anyway. Might as well not bother at all.py0noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8629758183547510158.post-46465734323031749862013-05-09T11:39:33.355+01:002013-05-09T11:39:33.355+01:00@Paul: in my experience, while there's a lot o...@Paul: in my experience, while there's a lot of cask beer drunk in the centres of the cities and larger towns in Scotland, if you just go in a pub at random, even an attractive one in a touristy location, you probably won't find any cask, whereas in England very likely you will. <br /><br />There's also a fair bit of the "one apologetic handpump at the end of the bar syndrome", which you suspect might well have been just put on for the tourists and probably won't be any good.<br /><br />And why do pubs in Scotland have Tetley Bitter or Old Speckled Hen as their sole cask beer?Curmudgeonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02558747878308766840noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8629758183547510158.post-66114697730459337252013-05-09T09:38:28.795+01:002013-05-09T09:38:28.795+01:00A trip to bonny scotland and no tennets lager? Poo...A trip to bonny scotland and no tennets lager? Poor show.Cooking Lagerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02830924433230427226noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8629758183547510158.post-18878551899235968192013-05-08T23:30:45.322+01:002013-05-08T23:30:45.322+01:00On the plus side you didn't drink any of that ...<br />On the plus side you didn't drink any of that over-rated, over-hyped and over-priced Scottish shite Brewdog.Professor Pie-Tinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8629758183547510158.post-11065835919101177032013-05-08T23:06:08.185+01:002013-05-08T23:06:08.185+01:00"You don't see many drinking cask." ..."You don't see many drinking cask." Is this still symptomatic of parts of Scotland?<br /><br />I ask the question purely because it is getting on for 30 years since I last had a pint north of the border, (shameful I know!). Scotland embraced lager long before the English did; I just wonder whether old habits are dying hard?<br /><br />ps. No excuse for a company like Wetherspoons to be serving beer that is clearly long past its sell by date.Paul Baileyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09678639237696546268noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8629758183547510158.post-62422313473801864552013-05-08T19:22:20.473+01:002013-05-08T19:22:20.473+01:00All this talking about what pubs "should"...All this talking about what pubs "should" do ignores the fact that many pubs are tied to the pubco or brewery that owns them. The choice - often very limited - is usually from an approved list, and the tie would apply to bottled beers too.<br /><br />I have seen the big bang approach - put on loads of ales and hope you get the customers in - go disastrously wrong quite a few times. If a licensee, knowing my involvement in CAMRA, asks my opinion, I suggest the Tandleman line, i.e get one or two and build up. I also suggest they ask the pubco or brewery to provide materials for a launch night, rather than just putting them on quietly and hoping for the best.<br /><br />Quite a few times I've been told that "We tried that real ale once but you CAMRA lot didn't come in!" Then I have to explain there aren't enough CAMRA members to keep every real ale pub going, and that they have to build up their own customers. Pennies drop that there isn't an easy supply of customers just waiting for the moment they put a cask of Greene King IPA.Neville Grundyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10923209266005338452noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8629758183547510158.post-68976633562130396412013-05-08T16:45:00.067+01:002013-05-08T16:45:00.067+01:00Maybe a well publicised bottled beer menu is the w...Maybe a well publicised bottled beer menu is the way forward?py0noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8629758183547510158.post-75302669146682088152013-05-08T16:34:56.199+01:002013-05-08T16:34:56.199+01:00@Ghost Drinker: (-: Well, maybe - sure, ale refers...@Ghost Drinker: (-: Well, maybe - sure, ale refers to the fermentation method and lagering to the conditioning method, but it does say "lager ale" rather than "lagered ale" which is what you could argue Kölsch to be. <br /><br />@py0: you're right, but there's a lot more involved than just choice. You have to do something to pull the punters in to see you have a great choice of great beer - which will also depend what the local competition is like - plus you're going to have to be ready to chuck a lot that's gone off while you're building up trade. Bryan the BeerVikinghttp://beerviking.netnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8629758183547510158.post-24163940416296742142013-05-08T16:15:54.089+01:002013-05-08T16:15:54.089+01:00@py0 - we have had this argument before, but what ...@py0 - we have had this argument before, but what works for one pub isn't necessarily going to work for them all, There are only so many potential customers for little back-street multi-beer pubs and to say this is a viable model for most, or even many, pubs is just silly.Curmudgeonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02558747878308766840noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8629758183547510158.post-92091192620743566742013-05-08T16:14:25.437+01:002013-05-08T16:14:25.437+01:00Better by far to encourage your regulars by servin...Better by far to encourage your regulars by serving a beer or couple of beers that they like and that's always good condition wise, then build up. In my opinion of course.Tandlemanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06804499573827044693noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8629758183547510158.post-37201341597728030922013-05-08T16:09:21.656+01:002013-05-08T16:09:21.656+01:00Better to have one cask beer in good nick and thre...Better to have one cask beer in good nick and three craft keg pumps?<br /><br />On the other hand, if no-one is coming in and drinking your ale, maybe its because you haven't got enough choice to attract the enthusiasts. One little backstreet pub I go to typically has 8-10 handpumps on, all in perfect condition, and its always busy. Its a virtuous circle. Good choice brings in the punters, and the flow of punters allows you to be able to provide a good choice without the beer turning to vinegar. py0noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8629758183547510158.post-84388467776228183272013-05-08T15:29:14.549+01:002013-05-08T15:29:14.549+01:00they're probably cask conditioned lager...lage...they're probably cask conditioned lager...lagered "real ale"beersiveknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13293913182389157112noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8629758183547510158.post-28336072513234255182013-05-08T15:12:27.090+01:002013-05-08T15:12:27.090+01:00A Kolsch??A Kolsch??Ghost Drinkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00753576955816756710noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8629758183547510158.post-69015430259729898692013-05-08T15:09:26.872+01:002013-05-08T15:09:26.872+01:00Phil. My bad. Counting House. Changed thanks.Phil. My bad. Counting House. Changed thanks.Tandlemanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06804499573827044693noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8629758183547510158.post-31398947584791762002013-05-08T14:58:44.998+01:002013-05-08T14:58:44.998+01:00The Standing Order's an Edinburgh Spoons - hav...The Standing Order's an Edinburgh Spoons - have they got one in Glasgow too?Philhttp://ohgoodale.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8629758183547510158.post-56582880566770872222013-05-08T14:19:56.357+01:002013-05-08T14:19:56.357+01:00Ha. I didn't read the small print. Best ask ...Ha. I didn't read the small print. Best ask Lancaster Brewery.Tandlemanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06804499573827044693noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8629758183547510158.post-62965914083682958132013-05-08T14:17:42.931+01:002013-05-08T14:17:42.931+01:00What the hell is a 'lager ale'?What the hell is a 'lager ale'?An Anonymous Boozernoreply@blogger.com